sarcasm vista general

Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

Sarcasm, in newsgroups? Noooooooooooooooooooooo, never!

I am not aware of any sarcasm police we can call on but the subject is covered by various 'netiquette' guidelines where it always discouraged. I don't know what to tell you except if you wish to encourage someone to alter the tone in their future posts, by all means do so.
"Mario Rosario" wrote in message

Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" wrote:

Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah

I think it is group mentality where if some one walks into the middle of a conversation and is not caught up, he or she gets flamed. And the discussions have been on for a while.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

I am not aware of any sarcasm police we can call on but the subject is covered by various 'netiquette' guidelines where it always discouraged. I don't know what to tell you except if you wish to encourage someone to alter the tone in their future posts, by all means do so.
"Mario Rosario" wrote in message Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:11:49 +0100, Conor wrote:

In article , Jonah says... On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS
Only because they WILLINGLY made themselves victims.

Perhaps my ironic reply was a bit too subtle?
Jonah

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" wrote:

Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

Hey Mario I think you are being far too subtle here, irony totally wasted on most people, I guess thats why its so much fun.
8-)
Jonah

You're my man. :)
"Jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Hey Mario I think you are being far too subtle here, irony totally wasted on most people, I guess thats why its so much fun.
8-)
Jonah

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:44:44 +0100, Jonah wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah

Positively dripping with it. I love it.

If irony is posted and nobody gets it - was it really posted?
"Jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Hey Mario I think you are being far too subtle here, irony totally wasted on most people, I guess thats why its so much fun.
8-)
Jonah

The tree by the lake.

Yes Mr. Bill,
I should lay off that scorn.
Mario
"Bill" wrote in message

If irony is posted and nobody gets it - was it really posted?
"Jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Hey Mario I think you are being far too subtle here, irony totally wasted on most people, I guess thats why its so much fun.
8-)
Jonah

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:05:16 -0400, "Bill" wrote:

If irony is posted and nobody gets it - was it really posted?
You will be the philosopher of the NG then?

8-)
Jonah

Scorn? - what scorn? - I didn't see no stinking scorn
"Mario Rosario" wrote in message

Yes Mr. Bill,
I should lay off that scorn.
Mario
"Bill" wrote in message If irony is posted and nobody gets it - was it really posted?
"Jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Hey Mario I think you are being far too subtle here, irony totally wasted on most people, I guess thats why its so much fun.
8-)
Jonah

I'm retired, I need a job..............
This Philosopher gig - pay much? health benefits? retirement plan? free beer? company car?do I get to embezzle lots of company funds so I can have cool bathroom fixtures? how many hours a week? do I get a secretary?
"Jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:05:16 -0400, "Bill" wrote:
If irony is posted and nobody gets it - was it really posted?
You will be the philosopher of the NG then?
8-)
Jonah

I don't understand all these fancy words and nuances they imply but you have a shred of the First Amendment in the country where the server resides for these groups. The rest of them were gutted years ago. If you mean people using a Beta and people generally saying in a number of ways if they don't know x, y z they shouldn't be using it, I'm not to hung up on that, realizing that in every version of Windows MSFT has positioned the beta OS as a fake software aphrodisiac to drum up interest, particularly when they have strong indicators that sales are going to be considerably lower than they expected and the stock is currently in free fall.
MSFT has witheld documentation in a wide number of areas, releasing a Beta to the public without it so these comments about reading this and that before using the Beta ought to be tempered by the fact that most of the public has very little decent to read on using it and in a number of areas neither do the so-called TBTs.
CH

"Mario Rosario" wrote in message

Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.

"Jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah

After reading your inspiring Words of Wisdom, I have decided to turn over a new leaf and not flame the stupid people. Thank you for helping me see the error of my ways.
-Larry

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:27:06 -0400, "Chad Harris" wrote:

I don't understand all these fancy words and nuances they imply but you have a shred of the First Amendment in the country where the server resides for these groups. The rest of them were gutted years ago. If you mean people using a Beta and people generally saying in a number of ways if they don't know x, y z they shouldn't be using it, I'm not to hung up on that, realizing that in every version of Windows MSFT has positioned the beta OS as a fake software aphrodisiac to drum up interest, particularly when they have strong indicators that sales are going to be considerably lower than they expected and the stock is currently in free fall.
MSFT has witheld documentation in a wide number of areas, releasing a Beta to the public without it so these comments about reading this and that before using the Beta ought to be tempered by the fact that most of the public has very little decent to read on using it and in a number of areas neither do the so-called TBTs.
CH
Chad.

Fancy words and nuances are the art of Irony.
*-)
Jonah

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:01:09 -0400, "Bill" wrote:

I'm retired, I need a job..............
This Philosopher gig - pay much? health benefits? retirement plan? free beer? company car?do I get to embezzle lots of company funds so I can have cool bathroom fixtures? how many hours a week? do I get a secretary?
snip

No pay Bill but you can sign yourself off as "Official NG Philosopher" and instead of answering questions offer words of wisdom that have sod all to do with PCs in any way. You could use the word "Vista" as a sort of base theme.
The more obscure the better.
Jonah

"In the groves of their academy, at the end of every vista, you see nothing but the gallows."
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

I did a thesis (about 150 pages) on GBS (George Bernard Shaw and Irony) at school for English dept and now I'm going to have to go look up fancy words, nuances and see if there's any irony in the fact I wrote it without understanding fancy words and nuances. Shaw would have liked the irony and eschewed the fancy words and nuances but they would have been implied in his plays is what I think I'll find out when I look them up.
CH
"jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:27:06 -0400, "Chad Harris" chad@Congressareworthless.net> wrote:
I don't understand all these fancy words and nuances they imply but you have a shred of the First Amendment in the country where the server resides for these groups. The rest of them were gutted years ago. If you mean people using a Beta and people generally saying in a number of ways if they don't know x, y z they shouldn't be using it, I'm not to hung up on that, realizing that in every version of Windows MSFT has positioned the beta OS as a fake software aphrodisiac to drum up interest, particularly when they have strong indicators that sales are going to be considerably lower than they expected and the stock is currently in free fall.
MSFT has witheld documentation in a wide number of areas, releasing a Beta to the public without it so these comments about reading this and that before using the Beta ought to be tempered by the fact that most of the public has very little decent to read on using it and in a number of areas neither do the so-called TBTs.
CH
Chad.
Fancy words and nuances are the art of Irony.
*-)
Jonah

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:47:33 -0700, "Kerry Brown" wrote:

"In the groves of their academy, at the end of every vista, you see nothing but the gallows."

Thats the kind of thing Kerry - excellent. Everybody is wiser without actually learning anything useful.
Jonah

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:56:16 -0400, "Chad Harris" wrote:

I did a thesis (about 150 pages) on GBS (George Bernard Shaw and Irony) at school for English dept and now I'm going to have to go look up fancy words, nuances and see if there's any irony in the fact I wrote it without understanding fancy words and nuances. Shaw would have liked the irony and eschewed the fancy words and nuances but they would have been implied in his plays is what I think I'll find out when I look them up.
CH

Yeah that sounds like a double irony maybe even a triple? Did you study Oscar Wilde? - grand master that bloke was and Churchill wasn't bad either.
My favourite American exponent of the art was that guy who was running for VP and made that "potato" spelling howler in a kindergarten class. He was really deadpan with it 8-) forget his name. Dubbya is fairly interesting but his delivery is not convincing.
Jonah

"jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:27:06 -0400, "Chad Harris" chad@Congressareworthless.net> wrote:
I don't understand all these fancy words and nuances they imply but you have a shred of the First Amendment in the country where the server resides for these groups. The rest of them were gutted years ago. If you mean people using a Beta and people generally saying in a number of ways if they don't know x, y z they shouldn't be using it, I'm not to hung up on that, realizing that in every version of Windows MSFT has positioned the beta OS as a fake software aphrodisiac to drum up interest, particularly when they have strong indicators that sales are going to be considerably lower than they expected and the stock is currently in free fall.
MSFT has witheld documentation in a wide number of areas, releasing a Beta to the public without it so these comments about reading this and that before using the Beta ought to be tempered by the fact that most of the public has very little decent to read on using it and in a number of areas neither do the so-called TBTs.
CH
Chad.
Fancy words and nuances are the art of Irony.
*-)
Jonah

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:49:26 -0700, "Kerry Brown" wrote:

My favourite American exponent of the art was that guy who was running for VP and made that "potato" spelling howler in a kindergarten class. He was really deadpan with it 8-) forget his name. Dubbya is fairly interesting but his delivery is not convincing.
He's a veritable treasure trove of quotes. This one could be applicable to Vista and programming in general.
"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made."

Brilliant! Thats a classic.
8-)
Jonah

Well, if the tax-paying citizens of the good ole US of A can bankroll a government poet laureate, this should not be out of reach.
"Bill" wrote:

I'm retired, I need a job..............
This Philosopher gig - pay much? health benefits? retirement plan? free beer? company car?do I get to embezzle lots of company funds so I can have cool bathroom fixtures? how many hours a week? do I get a secretary?
"Jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:05:16 -0400, "Bill" wrote:
If irony is posted and nobody gets it - was it really posted?
You will be the philosopher of the NG then?
8-)
Jonah

Jonah wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah

Why would you want to get the MVP status? All it does is prove that you bend over the table and drop em for Bill and Steve as much as possible!

Did they turn you down?
"Female Chauvanist" wrote in message

Jonah wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah
Why would you want to get the MVP status? All it does is prove that you bend over the table and drop em for Bill and Steve as much as possible!

They returned his application with a single sentence...
You are kiddin right???

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Did they turn you down?
"Female Chauvanist" wrote in message Jonah wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah
Why would you want to get the MVP status? All it does is prove that you bend over the table and drop em for Bill and Steve as much as possible!

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:47:05 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Did they turn you down?
"Female Chauvanist" wrote in message Jonah wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah
Why would you want to get the MVP status? All it does is prove that you bend over the table and drop em for Bill and Steve as much as possible!
Wassa marrer, can't you read or is comprehension a problem for you?

Jonah

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:03:02 -0500, Female Chauvanist wrote:

Jonah wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:01:25 -0700, "Mario Rosario" mario@webacre.com> wrote:
Do you guys feel we should keep the sarcasm off the postings? Some people get offended.
Yes I for one do.
It is entirely reprehensible to be in any way sarcastic or condescending to people who in all innocence and with no clue whatsoever decide to overwrite their PCs without reading the instructions or warnings first.
These people are VICTIMS and it is our duty as voulenteer responders to be as poilte, helpful and supportive as possible in order to ease the pain and loss suffered by the unfortunate victims of an ill advised upgrade.
Also we should give all possible aid to those confused as to how a DVD is burnt from an ISO file and should scour the net to find suitable drivers for the various hardware problems, and if possible e mail said drivers, fixes etc along with hand written full instructions in very simple language directly to them.
One day we will all be rewarded in heaven and maybe even get MVP status.
Irony is much bigger and cleverer, outright abuse has its place but sarcasm is just plain lazy.
8-)
Jonah
Why would you want to get the MVP status? All it does is prove that you bend over the table and drop em for Bill and Steve as much as possible!

Read the above properly, use a dictionary, look up "Sarcasm" and "Irony" then use that information to decipher my post. It will be educational for you.................promise!
Jonah